I recently commented on a
blog that I occasionally read. It's written by a “Brit”, who
studies another style/system, so she has a little different
perspective on things.
Generally, her (written)
interests are not my (general) cup of tea, but occasionally
she'll throw a question or comment out that catches my attention.
In this case, she was
inquiring about the (validity?) usefulness of wrist-locks (and
joint manipulations in general). Her argument being, that it was
generally faster, and easier to strike someone, than to
place them into a wrist-lock (or presumably any equivalent
manipulative-type technique).
Her attitude regarding
the problems she associated with their implementation, were
unfounded (IMO). Those concerns were the typical concerns that
are (widely) voiced by most individuals who often encounter
difficulty with that type of techniques implementation.
As with most situations
similar to this one, I am unable to show how those concerns
should be addressed. Although I can write out (several)
correctional variations, none will be as quickly understood as could
be shown in person.
Either way, this concern
should be studied and understood how it needs to be
addressed and corrected. There are individual's (and
even systems) that state that limb manipulations are
fine, but have no value in a typical (sic)
confrontation.
This
perspective/attitude, is one that has come about (mainly) by/from
individual's that (either)
A. Haven't seen the requisite motions to perform those manipulations,
or B. Haven't acquired the requisite skills to perform those manipulations.
Both of which, can be rectified through the correct training program.
A. Haven't seen the requisite motions to perform those manipulations,
or B. Haven't acquired the requisite skills to perform those manipulations.
Both of which, can be rectified through the correct training program.
The biggest disagreement
seems to be on what (or who's, LOL) training program
would be the best. This particular argument is one that
gets numerous people into (sometimes violent) debates.
It's one that “I” don't particularly care to engage in either.
Different system's,
utilize different approaches to (physical) conflict
management. RyuTe is no different. The manner that RyuTe would
implement a motion (regardless of what that motion is,
a strike, a stance, a technique), will directly
effect how and why the remainder of that confrontation
will proceed.
The way that student's
are trained in
RyuTe to implement and use those joint manipulations,
is different than how/why they would be used in another
system. This can often account for person's who study one
system, disagreeing
with another systems use of the technique in a similar
situation.
Principles and goals can
dictate differences in technique execution, completion and/or
conclusion. This is why I'm not fond of explaining specific technique
execution methods here (too many variables between systems).
When I am face-to-face
with someone, I have no problem explaining (or even demonstrating) a
technique, and how we perform it. When I am (physically) present with
someone, I am able to visually clarify any statement I might
make, and I can answer the (many) questions that inevitably present
themselves.
Joint manipulations are a
Major portion of the RyuTe system (2nd only to the
over-rated “knock-out” neck strikes in popularity). In both my own
experience, and that of my student's, those manipulations and the
ability to apply them have served a far greater benefit to me than
the majority of the striking skills ever have.
When I observe
(increasingly upon the Web) individual's performing what they
call Tuite, it usually turn's my stomach. Very often I know where
(thereby from whom) they have learned those motions, and
I'm certain that the techniques were not taught in the manner
shown.
Being experienced in what
the majority of those individual's practice (Ju-jutsu type
techniques), I understand their enthusiasm when shown the Tuite
(version). It is often vastly different. The difficulty in
correcting anyone who is having problems with implementing
these types of techniques, is that it can't be (efficiently) done via
written correspondence.
My personal opinion is
one that favors the use of limb manipulations over those
motions that are referred to as being impact techniques. Once
understanding that strength should be considered an irrelevancy to a techniques effectiveness, the
student can begin to concentrate on technique application.
In addition controlling
an aggressor (without necessarily having to cause/create
greater injury) physically, doing so will provide the tori
with a (more) justifiable defense when interviewing with Law
enforcement afterwords.
3 comments:
It's the kind of training a person gets. Hard stylists in particular have a huge problem incorporating the 3-6 months emphasis on the few basic handlocks into their usual bag of striking and blocking skills. When I trained in Taekwondo, I also took up Aikido many years ago. The first 6 months was horrible. I was all over the shop and couldn't do anything right. I kept on persisting and after 3-4 years I started to understand how to do things well. 15 years later I'm just starting to be able to incorporate those skills into a hard style system and make it work for me - in various situations. 15 years!
Respectfully,
Colin
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In your multiple choice section you forgot; c) Have never been in a real altercation
I hate continually playing the Police Card, since the mere fact that you are trying to apprehend somebody tends to change a few things, but damn near every single cop outside of Mayberry gets in regular fights and ends them with a joint manipulation. Cops shouldn't for obvious reasons try to punch their subjects into submission, and even if they did do that they'd still have to get some sort of wrist control tactic on the unconscious person to physically be able to put the handcuffs on them. Cops, particularly big city cops, get in far more altercations than your average dojo owner, and no, sparring doesn't count. Not at all, in any shape or way. Even if you throw out every rule in your dojo and fight your top student, you still know the fight is coming. Strap a gun on all your students, fully loaded, and randomly jump them as they walk into the dojo and maybe we are getting close.....but as usual I digress.
Simply put, if joint locks work in 99% of law enforcement encounters (when done correctly) then some merit should be placed in their execution in a non L.E. fight situation. Even in a one on one 'I got jumped at the bar and neither of us are cops situation' a straight punch and kick the party till they are unconscious mentality would get you on the wrong end of a law suit no matter who threw the first punch.
Kyusho and Tuite are on our patch which is a circular logo. I tell the students that Tuite flows into Kyusho as well as the other way. A joint manipulation sets you up well for that lovely neck strike or carotid restraint. An arm strike can cause them to grab you as their balance fails, which leads to the tuite, which leads back to a neck strike. The big wheel keeps on rolling. Take one part away and you limit your options in a fight and are left with half (or less) of an art.
And that's my two yen.
While I don't know Tuite (I'm a practioner of jujutsu first and foremost) I find myself agreeing wholeheartely with your post. Locks are very useful but they require a) a qualified instructor (this is even more important than in the purely striking arts) and b) a whole lot of training, pain and patience. Most people are apparantly missing at least one of those two requirements and as a result their locks don't work, the logical fallacy looming here is that they then often state that locks don't work period. Locks work but only if they're executed properly: you'd think this would be obvious but apparantly not for some people who'd rather blame techniques and methods that have been around for ages than themselves or their instructor.
I've practiced locks for about 10 years now and now they start to flow: during the first few years I completely sucked at them but after much training I got better and better. It wasn't until I started training with my current sensei that my locks improved vastly to the point I have complete confidence in them as a tool for self-defense: my first sensei was great at locking himself but, being old school, hardly explained them and left us to figure it out. My new sensei, the top student of my old one, does explain everything from A to Z and this is why even our lower belts are much more competent than I ever was at that point in my training.
One thing I'd say though: for people who are looking to learn basic self-defense skills and have little time to do so locking isn't the answer and I do believe one must have enough experience in order to keep a clear head and to be able to fight the effects of adrenaline on the body and mind. If you get mad or excessively fearful it's not likely your locks will work.
I must say I like your blog and will be visiting every once in a while.
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